Geneva II conference Syria: American ‘dialogue’

Geneva II confab on Syria highlights gaps between Damascus, opp.

Jan 22, 2014

The Geneva II conference on the Syria crisis has revealed major differences of opinion between the Syrian government and the foreign-backed opposition from the very outset.

The much-anticipated talks kicked off on Wednesday in the Swiss city of Montreux to discuss a transition plan ahead of direct talks between the opposition and the government in Geneva on Friday.

But deep differences soon emerged with the opposition and its foreign sponsors insisting that Syrian President Bashar al-Assad must not have any role in the country’s new government.

“We agree completely with Geneva I decisions that everyone has agreed upon. I invite partners to sign on Geneva I right now during their presence here and start a transition of Assad’s power to a transitional body that will build the structure of new Syria,” said Ahmad al-Jarba, head of the so-called Syrian National Coalition.

He was referring to an earlier round of international talks on Syria held in Geneva in June 2012, where participants agreed on a transitional government with full executive powers with members from both the government and opposition.

Jarba’s remarks were echoed in comments made by US Secretary of State John Kerry, who insisted that there was no room for Assad in the future government of Syria.

“There is no way, no way possible in the imagination, that the man who has led the brutal response to his own people could regain the legitimacy to govern.”

Syrian Foreign Minister Walid al-Muallem, however, dismissed the remarks, noting, “No one in the world has the right to confer or withdraw the legitimacy of a president, a constitution or a law, except for the Syrians themselves. This is their right.”

Muallem expressed regret that some countries attending the international conference “have the blood of Syrian people on their hands.”

The Syrian foreign minister blamed them for “exporting terrorism, as well as tools of murder” and “flooding media with lies” to cover the crimes of the mercenaries and militants they have been funding in Syria.

Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov also called on all foreign players to “abide by basic principles of international law: respect for Syria’s sovereignty and not interfering in its internal affairs.”

He rejected the use of force in Syria and reiterated Russia’s call for dialog among Syrian parties as the only solution to the crisis that has been plaguing the Arab nation over that past three years.


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I am working for the Belgian human rights association 'Werkgroep Morkhoven' which revealed the Zandvoort childporn case (88.539 victims). The case was covered up by the authorities. During the past years I have been really shocked by the way the rich countries of the western empire want to rule the world. One of my blogs: «Latest News Syria» (WordPress)/ Je travaille pour le 'Werkgroep Morkhoven', un groupe d'action qui a révélé le réseau pornographique d'enfants 'Zandvoort' (88.539 victims). Cette affaire a été couverte par les autorités. Au cours des dernières années, j'ai été vraiment choqué par la façon dont l'Occident et les pays riches veulent gouverner le monde. Un de mes blogs: «Latest News Syria» (WordPress)/ Ik werk voor de Werkgroep Morkhoven die destijds de kinderpornozaak Zandvoort onthulde (88.539 slachtoffers). Deze zaak werd door de overheid op een misdadige manier toegedekt. Gedurende de voorbije jaren was ik werkelijke geschokt door de manier waarop het rijke westen de wereld wil overheersen. Bezoek onze blog «Latest News Syria» (WordPress) ------- Photo: victims of the NATO-bombings on the Chinese embassy in Yougoslavia
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4 Responses to Geneva II conference Syria: American ‘dialogue’

  1. kruitvat says:

    Al-Moallem to Ban Ki-moon: Need to prioritize combating terrorism

    Jan 22, 2014

    Montreux, (SANA) – Deputy Prime Minister, Foreign and Expatriates Minister Walid al-Moallem, met UN Secretary-General Ban Ki-moon and discussed with him the UN efforts to hold the international conference “Geneva 2” for finding a political solution for the crisis in Syria.

    Al-Moallem, who is the head of the Syrian Arab Republic’s official delegation participating in Geneva 2, stressed during the meeting with Ban the need to prioritize combating the terrorism affecting Syria at the hands of armed terrorist groups which receive foreign funding, arming, and training from foreign sides which also facilitate the entry of extremist fighters from over 83 countries into Syria, saying that this is necessary to give credibility to any political process aiming to resolve the crisis in Syria.

    He hoped that Geneva 2 will represent a platform for launching dialogue among Syrians in Syria, thus allowing them to reach agreement on the future of their country.

    Al-Moallem said that the success of inter-Syrian dialogue requires ensuring that the Syrian opposition and all components of Syrian society are represented in this dialogue to guarantee that it will produce results meeting the aspirations and expectations of the Syrian people.

    The Minister stressed that the UN inviting only a single group claiming to represent the opposition while it actually represents none among the Syrian people, in addition to inviting countries with known positions against Syria, and recanting the invitation of Iran do not constitute a step in the right direction; rather this is a mistake made by the UN General-Secretariat which should be corrected.

    For his part, Ban stressed the importance of the Syrian official delegation’s participation in the conference and its work to contribute in a positive manner to launching dialogue among all Syrian sides in order to reach a political solution meeting the aspirations of the Syrian people.

    Ban asserted that the Syrian people are the ones who will decide upon their country’s future.

    The meeting was attended on the Syrian side by Deputy Foreign and Expatriates Minister Dr. Fayssal Mikdad, Assistant Foreign and Expatriates Minister Hussam Eddin Alla, and Syria’s Permanent Representative to the UN Dr. Bashar al-Jaafari.

    On the UN side, the meeting was attended by UN Deputy Secretary-General Jan Eliasson, UN Envoy to Syria Lakhdar Brahimi, and UN Assistant Secretary-Generals Valerie Amos and Jeffrey Feltman.

    Al-Moallem also met his Chinese counterpart Wang Yi.

    H. Sabbagh

  2. kruitvat says:

    Syria and the West’s stupidity


    The same perpetrators of hundreds if not thousands of the most horrific scenes of torture in the illegal invasion of Iraq are now expressing horror at stories of human rights abuse in Syria, where the same perpetrators have been cavorting with terrorists, fomenting a civil war, then complaining when the authorities fight back.

    Just in case Messrs. Obama, Cameron, Hague and Kerry had not noticed, there are hundreds of armed groups running around Syria committing atrocities against the civilian population, against the fire service, against the Syrian police force, against the Syrian armed forces. One questions what the US and British authorities would do if the same sort of mayhem was unleashed upon their people.

    Would the authorities stand back and do nothing? Or would they do what they did in detainee centres in Iraq? Has everyone forgotten the Great American heroine Lynndie England, the one who was “just having fun” torturing or posing with tortured Iraqi civilians in Abu Ghraib prison? Let us not forget that the cases of torture in Iraq number tens of thousands of cases and there are hundreds if not thousands of cases of abuse which were not investigated – the US and UK personnel were committing human rights atrocities long after the Abu Ghraib scandal, not in their own countries, but overseas. Let us not forget that the centre of human rights abuse in Cuba is the Guantanamo Bay concentration and torture camp where detainees have been held for years without due legal process. Is this what the USA and its poodles stand for?

    And suppose we entertain the notion that without massive support from the West and from their disgusting lackeys in the Gulf, terrorist supporters such as Qatar and Saudi Arabia, then the Syrian “Opposition” would never have inflicted itself upon Syrian society and there would never have been a Syrian Civil War.

    Let us also not forget who and what was behind the supposed chemical weapons attacks in Syria last August, which the west knew about, and which in some quarters were considered to be a valid action by the Syrian Opposition if they created a casus belli. Let us also not forget who the Syrian Armed Forces are protecting: Syria’s civilian population.

    Syria’s civilian population – the women who have had their breasts sliced off in the street by the western-backed terrorists, the girls who have been gang-raped before or after decapitation, the boys who have had their heads torn off and used as soccer balls, the old men humiliated before their families, the bakers roasted in their own ovens for daring to bake bread and put food on the tables of innocent Syrian families.

    If these demonic hordes perpetrated these atrocities, the West should remember that it was not the Syrian authorities and should remember who is ultimately responsible: the West. Then when their demonic hordes get a taste of their own medicine, the West complains. They can dish it out but they cannot take it themselves.

    So suppose the West got out of Syria, stopped creating civil wars in sovereign states, allowed the Syrian authorities to clean up the mess the West has started, and minded its own business?

    As for excluding Iran from the peace talks in Geneva, after Iran was invited, just because Iran refused to come to the talks with a pre-conceived conclusion before the talks had even started, this speaks volumes about the West’s absence of diplomacy, and says everything in favour of Teheran.

    Surely, the sensible position would be to create an environment for the Syrian people to choose their own destiny – Syrian solutions for Syrian problems, by Syrians and for Syrians, not by America and its poodle States, whose own human rights record and history of intervention read like the worst type of terrorist manual.

    Timothy Bancroft-Hinchey


  3. kruitvat says:

    Geneva II serves what or whom?


    The Geneva II peace conference in Switzerland is attended by forty States, including the Vatican. The purpose? To provide a venue for the Syrian people and the factions dividing them to solve their differences over a conference table, using diplomacy instead of arms? No, anything but. It is a microscope on an emasculated UNO, controlled by the USA.

    It is just as well that the Russian Federation, the People’s Republic of China and Brazil are present at the Geneva II talks, providing at least a chance of a counterweight to an agenda evidently controlled by the Washington-Saudi Axis, as was visible in the invitation to Iran and then its withdrawal, just because Iran stated that it did not come to the conference with any preconceived position or demands and that the onus should be on a venue to provide the Syrians with the means of finding a domestic solution to their issues, a solution made by Syrians for Syrians.

    Syrian “Oppositon” or “National Coalition” President Ahmad Jarba, who has close ties to Saudi Arabia, had said before the Conference that its aim should be to depose President al-Assad, a position echoed by Washington and its poodles. Under what right, and who are they to impose conditions? Jarba himself, an ex-con, had been imprisoned twice for treacherous activities and stands as a figure closely linked to arms trafficking to the terrorist forces inflicting so much suffering on the Syrian people.
    Without so much support from abroad, namely Washington and its poodles and the Middle East Cooperation Council, namely Saudi Arabia and Qatar, there would be no civil war in Syria and so the claim by Syrian Foreign Minister Walid Muallem, representing Damascus, that some of those attending have Syrian blood on their hands is true.

    While the face-to-face talks begin only on Friday, the outcome is not difficult to see. In fact, the meeting at Geneva is a classic example of how not to organize a peace conference.

    For a start, Washington, as usual one of the key players in the conflict due to its belligerence, proxy supporting of terrorist groups and anti-Assad rhetoric, has already called the remarks by Walid Muallem “inflammatory”, while saying nothing of the activities of the terrorist groups that Walid Muallem’s Government has been combatting heroically, and nothing, indeed, of the part played in these activities by Washington and its minions. What right does Washington have to make any claims over human rights, when it controls the concentration and torture camp at Guantanamo Bay which is a paragon of human rights abuses, where prisoners are held for years without any semblance of due legal process? It is like having a serial rapist presiding over the trial of a paedophile.

    Secondly, while Algeria is present, while Morocco is present, along with Belgium, Norway and Greece, and Indonesia, where is Iran, one of the key players in the region as a regional power with direct influence over all the events taking place? Nowhere. Why not invite Burkina Faso and Albania? Why is Iran not present? Maybe because Teheran announced on the same day it was invited that it was going to reveal evidence, documentary evidence, of those with links behind terrorist activities in Syria? The “un”-invitation presented to Iran by Ban Ki-Moon proves whose bed the Secretary-General sleeps in. If this is how the UN behaves, what right does this organization have to present itself as a venue for crisis management? Having such a biased organization hosting such an event is like asking the Inquisition to mastermind the protection of religious minorities or those holding unorthodox beliefs.

    Thirdly, Jarba represents exactly whom? A fraction of those taking up arms against the Syrian Government? Or the entire Syrian Opposition? Obviously the former, in which case he is at the talks in what capacity and what right does he have either to represent those who do not recognize him as their representative, or indeed present himself as a credible spokesperson when all he is in fact, is a traitor and a criminal? It is like inviting Jesse James to be sheriff of a town housing a large deposit of banknotes.

    Fourthly, let us finish on a constructive note. The way to solve the Syrian civil war is for external forces such as Saudi Arabia and Qatar, and their masters overseas, to cease aiding, arming, training and financing terrorist groups operating within Syria, to allow the Syrian government forces to exterminate the terrorist elements slicing the breasts off women, raping girls before or after they are beheaded, roasting men alive in ovens or playing football with the heads of decapitated boys, to allow the Syrian people to decide for themselves what they want to do and to stop being so hypocritical. Interference in the internal affairs of a sovereign state is illegal.

    Well, it is supposed to be. But then again on law-of-the-jungle Planet Earth 2014, anything goes. Including arming terrorists.

    Timothy Bancroft-Hinchey

    22.1.2014 – Geneva II serves what or whom?


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